Nothing before lunch
Well folks, we will break for an hour and a half with no news of what the jurors are thinking. I can assume that they are going through all the evidence. Remember, they have all approximately 300 pieces of evidence with them in the deliberation room. As of 12:30 p.m., the jurors have deliberated for 22 hours and 15 minutes since 11 a.m. Thursday.
So, we can wait. Will a decision come after lunch? Only time can tell.
So, we can wait. Will a decision come after lunch? Only time can tell.
posted by THE HICKORY DAILY RECORD at at
12:24 PM
41 Comments:
Looks like another free lunch and 40,00 a day problry the most money most of them has made in a long time and the Killer is still on the loose and jerry sits in jail
No, the killer is sitting in the Gaston County Courthouse... and every penny spent keeping him locked up is well worth it.
Who knows... if Jerry gets out, maybe he can join O.J. in his search for the real killers.
Dear sawmills citizen you are wrong so is the half of the people who live their what proof do you have none I lived in sawmills for 13 years and I moved out to many crooks their for me most of them had a 3 grade education
Maybe it's me but Carroll your last sentence didn't make any sense?
Yeah & maybe Jerry will write a book, "If i would have done it", like OJ did!! Or maybe it should read, "How I Done It"? Be interesting.....
Carroll... speaking of a 3rd grade education... your use of incomplete & run-on sentences is a fine example of the U.S. public education system.
I've lived in this area nearly 40 years, so don't brag about your 13 years here. And it seems to me that most of the folks in high positions are backing Jerry... so I'll agree with your assessment that there are too many crooks.
what sentence? I never saw an ending-it just rambled.
Maybe he could name it How to Commit the Perfect Crime because that is what he did if he did it.
yeah, that's a better headline!!
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INTERESTED it wasn't the perfect crime . Just a bunch of incompotent investigators !
interesting yes, to c how close the pd was right & how he covered his-self.
Or this... How to Succeed in Murder Without Even Trying.
Does anyone know the reason behind the court withholding information from the jurors, like the Lie Detector Test ? There was a test wasn't there ?
Polygraphs are never admissible in court, except in New Mexico.
I think it is referred to as the interview with the SBI, lie detector was not permitted in court.
right, it won't hold up in court but was there ever one given to him, not heard of it.
Yes he was given one and he passed it.
As I have said before, all of your theories are just as good as the prosecution's. Likewise, any theory that describes the defendant as inoocent is also just as plausible.
The problem is...
We do not know - and just as the prosecutor did in his closing argument - we are all forced to develop an opinion - all of which are very likely scenarios, however there just isn't evidence enough to return a verdict that would send a man to his death. Which is what I would have to be considering if I were a juror.
Again, manslaughter would likely have been easier to prosecute to the fullest.
When the sherrif's dept. investigates a case and arrest a suspect they go to a grand jury provided by the state and present their evidence and plea for permission to prosecute the charges presented. If the grand jury agrees they indict the suspect and move forward with the case...
Herein lies the most stunning blunder...
A grand jury agreed to allow this case to be tried as A CAPITAL MURDER trial without a murder weapon, blood/ DNA evidence or a direct eyewitness to the crime...
0 for 3 ! Right here under all our noses.
And they agreed to allow the prosecution to pursue CAPITAL MURDER, werein the accused is eligible for the DEATH PENALTY in our state. (without sufficient evidence to win - perhaps they grand jury was mislead, that just an opinion)
As a disconnected by-stander to these preceedings is:
What if any of us were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and were accused of a crime such as this and faced the fate this man does - all based on theories and emotionally tinged opinions.
With NONE of the BIG 3, weapon, blood/DNA or a direct eyewitness...
If JA did commit the crime then he will likely not be punished to the fullest extent or at all !
If he is an innocent man, then his life is ruined based on a VERY flemsy set of evidene.
VERY scary, indeed.
We should all be concerned as to whether or not our local officials can handle a case of this magnitude.
Disclaimer: once again, I am interested in this trial because it took place in the county I live in. I do not have an opinion on JA's guilt or innocence. I was not there to witness ay part of this tragedy, so please don't post here exclaiming how I must be a supporter of JA... I have never known anyone associated with this. My concern is only for JUSTICE and that our public servants do their job to COMPLETION leaving NOTHING to THEORY or OPINION.
The ideas above are based on my knowledge of the law and if I have missed something, please feel free to correct. -Thanks
I have question ? So please bare with me . In closing statements EB said that jerry loaded EA's truck on a trailer and hauled it to SC The same morning he supposedly shot her . Everyone with me so far ? OK if thats the case then why would the frontend loader need to be used or cleaned for that matter .Too many conflicting statements. I see no reason to use the loader or even clean it if I believe EB's closing statement .
i miss ret-investigator. he makes a lot of sense.
anybody heard from him?
Sawmillman,
You are right to be suspicious...
In fact we should all be suspicious as to why this case was allowed to move forward with so many questions left unanswered.
'one shouldn't take a knife to a gun-fight...'
I thought maybe he used the front end loader to put her in the toolbox. Just my thoughts.
If Mr. Anderson gets off, I'd hate to be one of you people outright calling him a killer. He could sue you for slander.
Or at least load her into the pickup bed. However big she was... 180 or so... that's alot of dead weight to lift up from the ground.
Allison... go jump in the lake.
I'm sorry Allison,
It is our Sherrif's dept that is calling him a killer, these people are just developing opinons as people tend to do...
Just a thought in regards to Allison’s comment. I wonder if JA is found not guilty could plans of a lawsuit be forthcoming against the CCSD. I know the court, judges and DA are not civilly liable but I don’t believe CC and the CCSD would be exempt. Anticipation of a JA lawsuit against CC could be the reason behind the 22.2 % tax increase? I can’t foresee the future, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
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Nice, 'Get Real' !
That was funny !
I have been asking around about the liability of the CCSD and I can't get a solid Yes or No from anyone...
As you mentioned, the State's official's are not liable lest they be hindered in their job...
However, Sherrif's Department need not answer to the state and are seperate entities...
Which could alter their liability in a case such as this.
Anyone who has the definative answer, please put us out of our misery ! ;-)
If he is guilty (I'm not saying he is or isn't)and used the front end loader to load her body then that would explain the paint chips found on her clothes that were said to match the front end loader, wouldn't it?
eavesdropping - that's exactly what I was thinking!
Sawmills girl and eavesdropping - If he indeed did what is being speculated. Think about this. There would be blood all over the Front-end loader, the workers were asked to clean the machine, and after hearing gun shots would you not think that the employees would question what was going on? The next day when they realized that she was "missing" I would assume they would have gone to the Police. Also, blood leaves a trail even after it is cleaned, it can be detected. They didnt find any blodd. That doesn’t add up.
This just shows how badly our "Justice System" is screwed up'
If it doesn't fit you "must " acquit. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. What part of that do some of you not understand. God forbid you are never on trial with no evidence against you, just people with the opinion that you are guilty..... Mercy....
Good point woodyr !
You are wondering my illegal mexicans didn't question a gun shot??????
Probably cause they like living in Sawmills and they like just living. If he had just shot her, and they questioned him. what would keep him from shooting them.
I have a few questions for ret-investigator or someone who will not get attitude by simple questions to think about....here goes...
1. Could the CCSD (or any individual) be sued if he if found not guilty?
2. Why do you think no one has looked into Antonio or his wife's past?
3. Antonio testified that Jerry was going to retire and let Emily and him run the new dairy.Is that weird to anyone?
4. Do you think the CCSD offered the mexicans "immunity" or no shipping back to Mexico if they helped them?
Thanks! Remember...I am not looking for a word fight!!!
RE: SPENCER....Your input thus far into this blog is to not make any sense of someone elses blog????...Give us your thoughts instead of riduculing others that may not be as highly educated such as yourself......You have yet to post a blog during this whole process...What do you have to say in defense of that????
Craig...I was not ridiculing her. I was merely asking her to clarify her statement so that we could all comprehend what she was trying to say. I have not "blogged" because there has not been anything to say. I have my opinion and it is just that...my opinion. Some of us our better at keeping it than exposing it!
RE:spencer...carroll is the "male" spelling of the name...Such as Carroll O'conner...So it seems you do have an opinion to me..I am sorry if I got on your nerves,thats life...I still would like to know your opinion...Maybe we could meet for coffee or something....Would'nt that be special????
Craig...I would love to meet for coffee maybe I could invite you over for breakfast with tomatos? Hope you don't have to ask for permission. My opinion...and again I say MY OPINION is that he is quilty but because of how the case was botched I thought it would be an easy not quilty for the jury. I quess the evidence left room for doubt on some minds.That is what evidence was handled properly.
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